Jesus christ can this guy be any cooler??

"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
05/02/2016 at 10:04 • Filed to: None

DISCUSSION (50)

Life and Times of Magoo: The People's Champ > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:07

Gotta give props where they are due on that one. Cause anyone who says they wouldn’t want to do that is full of shit. All of it.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:08

Kinja'd!!!

SO MACHO

McMike > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:08

Politics aside*, I think he’s definitely the most relevant personality I’ve seen in the White House.

*I have to start off with that, since there’s no way to share an opinion about a President without someone getting all pissy about it. I’m talking about the personality, not the politician.

scoob > McMike
05/02/2016 at 10:14

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Dru > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:14

Given the current slate of candidates running, I kind of wish Barack would stick around for a third term...

TheHondaBro > Dru
05/02/2016 at 10:15

It’d just be four more years of Congress refusing to work with him.

Clemsie McKenzie > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:15

Sometimes I think most of you Americans don’t realize you have the coolest president on the planet. Thanks Obama!

Dru > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:18

True, but it ain't Trump or Hillary tho

Ash78, voting early and often > McMike
05/02/2016 at 10:19

My biggest "personal" beef with him is the way he personally takes on every headline issue, even the ones that aren't really important and shouldn't take up a president's time. He's a little too much of a "PR President" in a sense, but I won't doubt the guy's appeal for a second. It probably helps he has younger kids and is pretty young himself.

Crest > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:22

Gaddem why haven’t i seen this before. That is the look of a man who came, saw and conquered. Come at “obama” bro

Flavien Vidal > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:23

He is pretty awesome :)

What I love is to see deep deep republican trying to say he killed ameirca and so on. To paraphrase Obama himself, the general health of a country, its economy and how well it does is something that can get measured guys! If you want to get back to a pre-obama 2008, please, do so and stay there!

EL_ULY > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:23

Kinja'd!!!

My speed3 is happy > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:27

The Atlantic has a nice piece about the “Comedian In Chief”

It talks about the history of the White House Correspondents Dinner and how some presidents were funny, but Barack has taken it to the next level by not just doing self-deprecating jokes.

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:29

No, I don't think so. Did you see the skit with Biden about after the presidency?

Mercedes Streeter > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:29

I wish he would’ve made more executive orders. :)

450X_FTW > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:32

I think we just saw history. If I am not mistaken, this was the first leader of ANY country who has ever done a mic drop. and done so, like a boss

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:33

Which is better than the negative image of this country that Trump or Hillary would create.

TheHondaBro > EL_ULY
05/02/2016 at 10:49

Damn straight son! My favorite president!

TheHondaBro > V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
05/02/2016 at 10:49

No.

450X_FTW > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 10:51

I didn’t vote for him (or any candidate) in 2008 or 2012, but I do have to thank him because the auto bailout saved my job, my friends jobs, and about 2.5 million other jobs in this country.

Mercedes Streeter > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
05/02/2016 at 10:52

At this point, I’d argue that Cruz would be a greater threat to America than Trump would be. Ever since the last Super Tuesday (which basically sealed in Cruz’s loss), Trump has been very slightly going left and left. And in response, Cruz doubles down on the right.

BKosher84 > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 11:15

He’s officially a Lame Duck President.. The fucks given are at an all time low of zero.

TheHondaBro > BKosher84
05/02/2016 at 11:17

Considering the lengths Congress had gone to in order to not cooperate with him, I’d also not give any fucks.

BorkBorkBjork > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 11:59

Cool? Sure. But was he a quality President? I am not as certain.

TheHondaBro > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 12:02

He worked against a stubborn Congress that refused to cooperate with him.

BorkBorkBjork > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 12:16

Doesn’t every president at some point? At the beginning of his term, however, his party had complete control of the House and the Senate. He could have passed anything his party wanted.

It’s 2016, Gitmo is still open, my health care is more expensive than it has ever been, the Chinese are running rampant across the South China Sea, and our relationship with Russia is the worst it has been since the Soviet Union existed.

But hey, we opened up diplomatic relations with Cuba, so go team USA!

TheHondaBro > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 12:26

Healthcare is more expensive, but it’s all about perspective. Before Obamacare, people with pre-existing conditions were denied coverage. Now they can get the care they need, thanks to the ACA and the millions of taxpayers. My mother was denied care because of pre-existing conditions, but not anymore. I’m eternally grateful for that.

He also opened the door to positive diplomatic relations with Iran. He managed to settle the nuclear deal peacefully and without violence.

He also helped raise the national minimum wage from an abysmal $7.50/hour to $9.00/hour in most places, and some are raising it even more, including near me.

And let’s not forget how he saved the country from entering a second Great Depression. I remember when the DJIA went skyrocketing in 2013. It went from 12,000 to 16,000 in a few months.

He may not be everyone’s cup of tea. There are things about his administration that I don’t agree with. However, he was one of the best US presidents in recent history, and he’d make the perfect candidate for representation on US currency.

BorkBorkBjork > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 12:41

Lets not get too carried away on the Iran nuclear deal. Remember, North Korea was a signatory on the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, and that worked out really well.

As for the economy, what were the specific differences between what Bush did at the end of his term and Obama did at the beginning? They were both just throwing big “Economic Stimulus Packages” at the problem. The executive branch of the government doesn’t have much (if any) control over the whims of a Free Market economy. The recession would have happened regardless of who was in power, and we would have recovered, regardless of who was in power.

Bush signed a minimum-wage increase too, raising it a couple bucks if I remember correctly.

And yes, I agree with you on Health care. We need significant reform, but he went about it the wrong way. American do not trust the Federal Government to be competent, so we have an ingrained fear that anything they dip their hands in will become an unmitigated mess. Look at what Indian Health Services has become, it’s a mess. If Obama wanted to fix health care for the whole population, he should have started with fixing things like the Veterans Administration and the Indian Health Services. Done right, that could prove to the population that the Federal Government is capable of doing something right. You have to start small with these things, build experience and reputation, and then you can make the big changes.

TheHondaBro > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 12:56

You’re forgetting that North Korea is run by a family of power-crazy men whose constituents believe are gods. Iran is parliamentary, and much more Western than NK.

As far as the economy, you need to see why we got into such a shitty state to begin with. A pointless war in Iraq and the death of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians and American soldiers which costed us everything we had in surplus and then some. My father survived an IED in Iraq in 2003 with a blown shoulder, monocular vision, and bad hearing, not to mention phycological damage and borderline PTSD. The entire Iraq debacle is pretty emotionally-loaded for me, and it’s worse when you realize it was all for nothing but to create political vacuum in the area and let ISIS move in. That, and the deregulation of the financial institutions nearly drove the country into the ground in 2008. Look at the stock history of the major US-based corporations during that time period. You’ll see a pitfall in 2008 for most of them. Barack Obama inherited all of this. His bailing-out General Motors meant thousands of American workers kept their jobs.

I’m more in favor with Bernie Sanders’ healthcare plan, which is a single-payer system. HMO’s are the real bottleneck in an effective healthcare plan. Like any corporation, they succumb to greed.

facw > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 13:48

Every president is going to deal with opposition in the legislature. However, the Republicans have basically made opposing Obama the central plank of their party. For the first six years, Obama tried hard to reach compromise solutions on most issues, but he was mainly negotiating with himself. You can’t compromise with someone who cares more about not agreeing with you than achieving their policy goals.

facw > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 13:55

Iran could back out of the nuclear deal, in which case we have to hope the snapback works.

The important thing though is that the sanctions regime that forced the deal was going to fall. It’s hard enough to Europe in line, let alone Russia and China. The options were to make a deal (and this one was pretty good as far as what we could reasonably expect), or to attack, which would have caused a setback for Iran, but would have enhanced their resolve to continue the program. Iran does have legitimate security interests, among other things, five nuclear powers (US, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, and India) operating in their general area, so they weren’t going to just give it up without getting something in return (plus they can see how well giving up on nukes worked for Gaddafi, compared to how actually building weapons has worked out in India, Pakistan and North Korea).

BorkBorkBjork > facw
05/02/2016 at 14:14

Iran has no incentive to keep to the deal. Ukraine gave up their nuclear arms and had multiple security assurances from the US and Russia, didn’t help them one bit.

facw > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 14:17

The incentive is that the sanctions would go back in place, and would be easier to sustain, since Iran would clearly be the bad actor. Now they could game the system, by freeing up their frozen funds, buying new military hardware, and then backing out of the deal, but if they were to do that, they’d risk a backlash from the public, who very much likes having the sanctions go away.

BorkBorkBjork > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 14:46

I would not consider Iran and North Korea to be very different on the crazy scale. They still have a Supreme Leader, just like North Korea, who is as bonkers as you can get. Not to mention a near-national policy of Holocaust denial.

The Iraq war was inherited, but Obama still had a chance to do alot about it. He just sat back and followed Bush’s withrawl plan, which was convenient for him. He could say that he ended the war in Iraq, and then turn right around and blame any failures on it actually being Bush’s plan.

It is very easy to forget the atmosphere of US politics in the aftermath of 9/11. At the time, the Iraq War was seen as an extension of the war on Terror (wheras we probably would have accomplished alot more if we had invaded Saudi Arabia instead, but that’s another matter). Would you say that ISIS was inevitable after the fall of Saddam Hussein? If so, then you’d have to admit that pulling out of Iraq at all was a terrible idea. At the very least Obama should have ordered the execution of the worst radicals from Camp Bucca before turning the facility over the the Iraqis, that may have nipped ISIS in the bud.

Then we have the mess is Libya, a true failed state. Egypt is not doing much better either, and the Civil war in Syria which in its 5 years has seen 4 times as much death as the 8 years of the Iraq War. Would you say that the Middle East is more or less fucked-up now than it was 10 years ago? I’m not sure you can blame Libya, Egypt or Syria on Bush. Then we get into how our relationships with Russia, a nation that still has a few thousand nukes aimed at us.

Remember that? A bit clairvoyant, I think.

TheHondaBro > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 16:01

Except Iranians are taught love and tolerance. Before you try to disprove me, let me tell you that I’ve grown up surrounded by Shia Muslims. Shia Islam is the most prominent religion in Iran; Iran is the center of Shia Islam. Every one of them was the nicest person you’d ever meet. They didn’t ever hate anyone.

Iranians are taught tolerance. The reason my father immigrated to the US was because Iran advocated the United States as the “Land of Opportunity.” Iranian school children are taught very good things about the US as well as other countries.

I don’t even need to describe North Korea. I find it a little unfair when you compare Iran and NK. They most certainly are NOT similar. I know from personal experience.

NJAnon > TheHondaBro
05/02/2016 at 19:32

Nah, whatever the previous presidents did joke wise didn’t come close to having Luther his anger translator come out and seeing *cough* caucasians *cough* get some real humor thrown their way.

Chasaboo > BorkBorkBjork
05/02/2016 at 23:17

I am. He’ll go down in history as one of the best, dealing with idiots on both sides of the aisle.

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > BorkBorkBjork
05/03/2016 at 15:34

every president?

i dont think either bush, or mr reagan did...

which is why we are in the situation we are in now

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > facw
05/03/2016 at 15:36

so much so this...

they try to frame it as conservative vs liberal

but i think its much deeper than that

and even go as far to say its skin deep...

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > BorkBorkBjork
05/03/2016 at 15:39

Dont forget who wanted to stick to bushes plan, because those were and are the same people in congress and senate that disagree with just about everything obama does... These are also the people who wanted to “stick to the plan” the most and would fight tooth over nail, and filibuster their way into getting what they want...

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > TheHondaBro
05/03/2016 at 15:43

I like how, in other countries, America or the US, markets itself as the land of opportunity because of democracy and that everyone’s vote matters.

What they really dont tell you is, its a corrupt republic and that your vote only matters if you have enough money to bribe, er sorry, I MEAN “LOBBY” your representative.

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > Dru
05/03/2016 at 15:46

could you imagine a sanders obama ticket?! it would have my vote for sure...

but it would be at least 3 years before anything good happened, and thats only if people voted out the assholes in congress and senate during the midterms...

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > BKosher84
05/03/2016 at 15:48

this current group of congress and senate is lame duck... hope they get voted out during the midterms...

they haven’t done shit for the country except make things worse and more expensive.

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > Clemsie McKenzie
05/03/2016 at 15:48

agreed!

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > NJAnon
05/03/2016 at 15:52

This was the best!!! i will never forget this.

its amazing how far america has come to elect a person of color to the position of president.

its amazing how much farther america has to come, to elect a person of color to the position of president, and actually let him do his job, and not have congress or senate go against him at almost ever single step...

one can dream

BorkBorkBjork > Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud
05/03/2016 at 17:16

Obama still had a majority in the Senate and the House when he took office. He could have done anything he wanted.

BorkBorkBjork > TheHondaBro
05/03/2016 at 17:40

I have no problem with Iranian people , I have serious issues with the Iranian government. Yes, they have good reason to be suspicious of the West, we did kinda bone their government up (along with the British, and the Soviets). However I do not think that is an excuse for the way they act, and the way they treat their own people. Censorship of the media and the internet, non-transparent elections, the drafting of children into a paramilitary force to be used as human shields, launching a missile less than a mile from a US Aircraft carrier, etc. Are these acts of a sane government? One that has the interests of the people in mind? Doubtful.

BorkBorkBjork > facw
05/03/2016 at 17:48

Why would he try to compromise when he could pass anything he wanted? Remember, the Democrats controlled all of Congress and the White House from 2009-2011. Unless you needed someone to share the blame on any failed program.

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > BorkBorkBjork
05/04/2016 at 11:58

you mean his 1st 2 years? no one gets anything done in their 1st 2 years....

NJAnon > 450X_FTW
05/05/2016 at 16:19

First leader of a few leaders that probably won’t have high blood pressure after they have their term.